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Stupak: 15-20 House Dems Dissatisfied with Obama Health Bill

"For that one reason among many, the United States will suffer unless there is placed into your government a group that fears the Lord if they cannot love the Lord. They will fear Him and find measures to stop the slaughter of the unborn." - Our Lady of the Roses, April 14, 1984

LifeSiteNews.com reported on February 24, 2010:

As Congressional Democrats slowly warm to triggering the legislative "nuclear option" in order to ram health care reform through the Senate with a simple majority vote, the leading pro-life Democrat in the House has warned that the abortion-expanding bill may nonetheless be doomed to failure in the lower chamber.

In a statement Monday, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) called President Obama's new health care proposal "unacceptable" for allowing public funding of abortion, and said that he believes that there may be enough “no” votes from Democrats in the House to scuttle the bill.

"Unfortunately, the President's proposal encompasses the Senate language allowing public funding of abortion. The Senate language is a significant departure from current law and is unacceptable," he said.

Stupak had co-authored the House bill's Stupak-Pitts amendment last year, which introduced Hyde-amendment language banning government funding of most abortions.

The compromise measure President Obama unveiled Monday was modeled largely off the previous Senate version, which lacks the Stupak amendment, and has widely been decried as a disaster for the pro-life movement in various respects. The National Right to Life Committee confirmed Monday that Obama's new bill would expand abortion even more than the original Senate bill.

As the White House ponders options to bring the bill into law, some centrist Democrats are reportedly growing more accepting of the idea of using a controversial process known as budget reconciliation to pass the health measure in the Senate with only 51 votes. Thus reconciliation - which would require the health care overhaul to be labeled a "budget" measure - could circumvent the need for a 60-vote majority to overcome a Republican filibuster. Politico reports that Democrats in the House are showing signs of uniting behind the measure.

Yet some consider that it is the bill's dim prospects in the House that could spell its demise: in an interview with FOX News Wednesday morning, Rep. Stupak claimed the bill would not make it through the chamber.

"Despite the abortion language, no, there's other problems with this bill," said the Michigan Democrat, when asked if the bill would pass. Despite the president's attempt to reconcile the House and Senate versions of the bill, said Stupak, "at least to the House members I've talked to, probably about 15 or 20 of them in the last 24 hours, they've said there are other problems with this bill."

Democrats aiming to pass the bill in the House could afford to lose only a small handful of votes; with no support from the GOP, 15 "no" votes from House Democrats stop the bill in its tracks.

The lawmaker cited as one example concerns over a provision to tax so-called Cadillac health insurance plans, something the House firmly rejected in its own bill last year. "We have some real legislative and procedural concerns with what the leadership is trying to do with this legislation," said Stupak.

In addition, in an interview with LifeSiteNews.com this month, Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ), co-chairman of the Congressional Pro-Life Caucus, affirmed that pro-life House Democrats "have hardened their position" in opposing a health bill that lacks the Stupak-Pitts amendment.

"I think they’ve seen how noble their position is," said Smith. "They are not going to go for a phony compromise. They are not going to go for weakening language no matter how cleverly it is presented."

President Obama has announced plans to hold a televised health care summit Thursday.

See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

Newly-Unveiled Obama Health Bill Proposal Even More Pro-Abortion: NRLC
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http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/feb/10021911.html

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WH set to ram health overhaul through Senate as "budget" measure

Newly-Unveiled Obama Health Bill Proposal Even More Pro-Abortion: NRLC

LifeSiteNews.com reported on February 22, 2010:

A new health care bill proposed by President Obama Monday threatens to expand abortion even more drastically than the health care bills stymied in Congress over the past several months, says the National Right to Life Committee.

The White House is threatening to ram the proposal through the Senate on a 51-vote majority using a tactic known as budget reconciliation. The process circumvents the need for a filibuster-proof 60-vote majority by placing the health care overhaul under the heading of a "budget" bill.

"Any member of Congress who votes for the final legislation proposed by President Obama will be voting for direct federal funding of elective abortion through Community Health Centers, and also an array of other pro-abortion federal subsidies and mandates," said NRLC Legislative Director Douglas Johnson in a statement Monday.

Johnson pointed out that the earlier Senate bill was itself "the most expansively pro-abortion bill ever brought to the floor of either house of Congress since Roe v. Wade." That bill was brought to a screeching halt in January, thanks to the unexpected victory of Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown, who handed Senate Republicans the one vote needed to maintain a filibuster.

Among the president's proposed "targeted set of changes to" the Senate bill, Johnson said, none "diminish any of the sweeping pro-abortion problems in the Senate bill, and he actually proposes to increase the funds that would be available to directly subsidize abortion procedures (through Community Health Centers) and to subsidize private health insurance that covers abortion (through the premium-subsidy tax credits program)."

"If all of the President's changes were made," said Johnson, "the resulting legislation would allow direct federal funding of abortion on demand through Community Health Centers, would institute federal subsidies for private health plans that cover abortion on demand (including some federally administered plans), and would authorize federal mandates that would require even non-subsidized private plans to cover elective abortion."

(A letter from NRLC to lawmakers detailing the multiple pro-abortion components of the Senate bill is available here.)

Meanwhile, despite Obama's bipartisan health care summit set for broadcast Thursday, White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer indicated Monday that Democrats were ultimately willing to push the bill through reconciliation with zero Republican help.

While the White House has "made no determinations on which process to move forward with," he said, "Our proposal is designed to give ourselves maximum flexibility to ensure that we can get an up or down vote if the opposition decides to take the extraordinary step of filibustering health reform."

Republicans, and even some Democrats, are skeptical that the Thursday summit will amount to anything more than political theatre.

“I’m not certain what the White House is up to, but it appears they are trying to meld a bill together without, again, any input from Republicans," said Republican Georgia Rep. Tom Price, according to Politico. Price was not invited to the health care talks at Blair House on Thursday.

"It doesn’t sound like bipartisanship. ... I’m afraid it’s just another photo op.”

See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

White House Preparing to Ram Through Abortion Expanding Health Care with Budget Bill
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/feb/10021911.html

"The Eternal Father command that you stop these murders at once! You will not destroy the lives of the unborn. Human life is sacred in the eyes of your God. No man has the right to destroy a life. The Father, He sends this life to you, and only He will decide when it will return back to the Kingdom.
"Do not, My children, be deceived by the words of the evil ones about you who cry to you of no space left for man. There is space, for My Father has a plan for every life He sends." - Our Lady of the Roses, August 5, 1971

THE UNITED STATES SHALL FALL
"How can a great country like the United States fall, you say, My child? You ask Me in your heart. I read your heart. I will tell you why. Because they have given themselves over to satan. When a country has lost its morality and seeks the pleasures of the flesh, giving over, themselves over, to all manner of abominations, like homosexuality, and condoning this up the highest courts of the land, then that country shall fall." - Our Lady of the Roses, November 1, 1985

DOCTORS
"Doctors now are profaning their profession, those who have given themselves over to destroying human life in abortions." - Jesus, June 6, 1987

FOULEST OF DEEDS
"Our hearts are torn because of the wanton murder of the young by evil man. Abortion, My children, is murder, the most foulest of deeds, that is punishable by death! And what is worse than death of the soul?
"I say unto you, as your Mother, that any man or woman who performs or takes part of this abomination of the murder of the unborn shall be given a heavy penance upon earth, or if this penance is not given upon earth, that person found guilty in the eyes of his God shall suffer eternal damnation in the fires of hell." - Our Lady, December 28, 1976

DESTROYED
"All who become part of or condone abortion, the murder of the young, shall be destroyed!" - Jesus, June 2, 1979

HUMAN LIFE IS SACRED
"The Eternal Father command that you stop these murders at once! You will not destroy the lives of the unborn. Human life is sacred in the eyes of your God. No man has the right to destroy a life. The Father, He sends this life to you, and only He will decide when it will return back to the Kingdom.
"Do not, My children, be deceived by the words of the evil ones about you who cry to you of no space left for man. There is space, for My Father has a plan for every life He sends." - Our Lady, August 5, 1971

WILL NEVER BE CONDONED
"You will remember, My children and My child, to guard the young. Your clergy have fallen into darkness. Abortion will never be condoned. But We must have others who fervently will go forward and bring out to the minds of those who have actually seduced the country and the children--bring them the knowledge of Heaven, hell and purgatory. Then they will not have free license to sin." - Our Lady, May 28, 1983

GOVERNMENT
"For that one reason among many, the United States will suffer unless there is placed into your government a group that fears the Lord if they cannot love the Lord. They will fear Him and find measures to stop the slaughter of the unborn." - Our Lady, April 14, 1984

NUNS
"That is what makes My heart ache, My child. That is one of the reasons Theresa is crying constantly when she looks into the convents and sees what is going on. Many now believe in abortion, the murders of the children; and many have committed this act upon themselves." - Jesus, October 1, 1988

SIXTY MILLION
"I say this for this reason: the Eternal Father is much disturbed at the numbers of abortions being committed throughout your country and the world. These numbers go upwards to fifty to sixty million in one year throughout the world." - Our Lady, June 18, 1986

TREATED AS GARBAGE
"O My child, My tears fall upon you all when I see all of the innocent little babies being slaughtered . . . cast into garbage pails like nothing but dirt and scum. They are living human beings! And all murderers shall get their just recompense." - Our Lady, March 18, 1983

HOLY SPIRIT
"At the time of conception, the Holy Spirit makes the child, and the breath of the Almighty gives it life." - Our Lady, June 18, 1991

LIMBO
"And what, My children, are We going to do with all the aborted babies? O My child, I know you feel as I do, for I can see the great distress on your face. What are We going to do, My child? Do you understand when they come to Us, they must go to Limbo? They are in Heaven, a happy place, but they cannot see God." - Our Lady, October 2, 1987

SORROWFULLY
"Sorrowfully, the penance that is to come upon the world for the murders of the unborn shall be a chastisement far greater in severity than man has ever witnessed in the past nor ever shall pass through again. Your world is plunging into a deep chasm of suffering and destruction." - Our Lady, May 20, 1978

OATH
"Your once loyal to the oath of a doctor, your once loyal doctors are now butchers! For money they kill the young!" - Our Lady, February 10, 1978

WOE TO THE WOMAN
"Know, My child, this simple lesson, that in these days of the latter times, women will seek to cast off their role as mother and a woman. Women will cast it off under the direction of satan, and murder her children. Woe to the woman who does not repent of this vile abomination! She has walked the road to eternal damnation and hell. Repent, O woman, or forever be lost!" - Our Lady, March 18, 1975

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